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Jack Roush Answers Questions About
The Nextel Cup Series
Jack Roush, car owner of the five
Roush Racing Tauruses in the Chase for the Nextel Cup, was part
of a Q&A session this morning in the infield media center at
Homestead-Miami Speedway.
JACK ROUSH, Car Owner Roush
Racing Tauruses ASSUMING TONY WINS THE TITLE. WHAT ARE
YOUR THOUGHTS ON DRIVERS WHO WIN MULTIPLE CHAMPIONSHIPS? I
think it will be a travesty if Tony doesnt win a
championship. He certainly had the kind of luck going for him
that we in 2003 and 2004, and hes had better performance
than Ive had in those same years. If he cant win this
year, then its real clear that I shouldnt have won
the other two, which Id hate to give back more than one of
them. For Tony realizing all the success he had getting to this
level and with the Gibbs organization being where it is with
their technology and their teamwork and all the other metrics
that go with that, its their time. Tony is certainly gonna
be celebrated by me and held up for the champion that he is and I
congratulate him for the prospect of winning two. I hope that he
does.
CAN YOU COMPARE THE SATISFACTION OF WINNING
A CHAMPIONSHIP VERSUS GETTING FIVE CARS IN THE CHASE? I
feel more honored and certainly feel that the task was more
complex to put the five cars in than to win a championship. We
had been in championship form with Mark Martin a number of times
and because the owner let him down or the engine let him down or
some other external force came into play, we came up dry. So to
be able to look at that and say with a driver of Marks
caliber that I wasnt able to help him close the deal or
provide the support for him to close the deal certainly got my
attention and made clear to me how extraordinarily difficult this
NASCAR form of stock car racing at its highest level is. People
ask me, What was the most important race you ever won?
Well, it was the world championship we won in pro stock drag
racing in 1973 because that meant that I could really give up my
day job, which I was teaching junior college then in addition to
doing my race cars. I could give up my day job and go off and
just focus on the motorsports side. The next most thing that Im
proud of and its one of the least prestigious and least
attended events, we won the 24 Hours of Daytona in the GT class
the GTO and GTS 10 times, entered it 10 times. So
those things loom large. The next-biggest challenge I would feel
is to win a championship with Mark Martin to help him do
that and then behind that, in front of either of the
Nextel Cup championships with either Matt or with Kurt is putting
five in this year.
COULD YOU SPEAK FROM A MANUFACTURERS
STANDPOINT ON IF THE CARS ARE CLOSER THAN EVER RIGHT NOW. The
answer that Id give you to that question would roll through
the quarters for a while. These cars are so close today by every
metric that you can apply. They are closer than they have ever
been and were into a situation where the chemistry between
a driver and a crew chief, and then chemistry between a crew
chief and an engineer, the chemistry between multiple drivers
within an organization, the chemistry between consenting drivers
and consenting crew chiefs throughout the field is the biggest
thing weve got to race with today. NASCAR, by creating the
common templates and by going for aero-matching, by doing all the
things theyve done with all the additional inspectors theyve
added, has created a level playing field beyond their vision and
their expectation. The consequence of it is its the
strength of people that wind up making the difference in these
race cars.
WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF REINSTATING
KURT FOR THIS RACE? No, certainly not by me. Kurt had been
a challenge for everybody that interacted with him on the team at
some time or other. He used up his equity with his sponsors. He
used up his equity with me. Barring real contrition, an
understanding that what he had done was something he was truly
sorry about and he would, in fact, make a commitment to everybody
that he wouldnt do those things, there was no reason to
back up from it. When I heard of what happened on Friday night
out there, I thought I could personally stand aside from it. I
thought that wed be able to go on through the two races
here and get through it, but as the news came in I didnt
understand, first of all, how animated and how much difficulty
the people had stopping him and talking to him. I didnt
realize the angst that was there and the emotion that went with
that and their willingness to report it and talk about it. Then,
of course, the outrage in the broader community and the
embarrassment that we felt for it, it was just time for Kurt to
fix his problem and to let the rest of us move on. In fact, I
hadnt heard that there was a blood-alcohol number reported
that was reported to be correct. What I had heard was that, first
of all, they had refused to let them check him, and then
secondly, when they did get him back and made it clear he was
going to have to go downtown unless they checked him that they
tried to check him at the race track there, at their sheriffs
station, that the machine didnt work. Thats what I
was told, but I was doubting that Kurt was in fact intoxicated
beyond a legal limit because it had been his nature to be very
much like he was reported to be in contentious situations that
frustrated him before. Im very sorry about it. Hes an
extraordinary talent an extraordinary talent but hes
really had trouble dealing with the realities of normal social
behavior that have high standards in what we do.
ARE YOU SAYING HE DIDNT SHOW ANY
REMORSE OVER THIS? I didnt talk to him. I havent
talked to Kurt for probably four weeks.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE CAR CAP NOW
THAT YOUVE HAD A WEEK OR SO TO THINK ABOUT IT? Ive
got contracts with sponsors that go out through 2011 and my
driver arrangements go varying periods of time, but in the 2010
plus or minus a year timeframe. My shortest driver-sponsor
arrangement is Carl Edwards and Office Depot and that goes 2008.
Those are things that Im committed for now. Can I sell
those? I dont want to sell those. I dont know that I
can based on the sponsor agreement that Ive got. As far as
I know, there is language in all of them that prohibits me from
selling them unless they agree to it. So there is faith and trust
as well as the way weve conventionally done our business
that were in the middle of here that is gonna take some
time to work through. Mike Helton and Brian (France) have told me
that theyre not gonna hurt me through this. On the face of
it, I consider that an insult. For somebody thats not
familiar with my business to tell me theyre gonna make a
dramatic change in it affecting my ability to re-pay my debt and
the cash flow that is associated with the investments Ive
made and the people have made around me, thats an insult
unless theyre willing to sit down and talk about the
detail of it and let us put together a proposal that makes sense.
But they said theyre not going to hurt me and I expect that
they wont, but Ill determine in my mind whether Ive
been hurt or whether I havent, and if I think I have, well
then well have some more discussion. Can I operate a team
in the year 2012 or 2013, or at some point past one of the
sponsors Ive got today, my Charter sponsors including the
AAA sponsor for this 6 car for next year and my Charter drivers
including Todd Kleuver. Will I consider running four cars and
make my business work running four cars beyond those commitments
and the momentum and the energy that weve got together? The
answer is yes. I very much want to be in this business for a
long, long time. SO YOURE GRANDFATHERED IN AND OK
THROUGH 2008? I consider that and told I would be
grandfathered, but they havent told me to what extent. I
told them what I expect and what I think is fair and what I have
strong feelings about. They havent said, Yes, yes,
yes, yes. They said, Yeah, but were not going
to hurt you. So Im guardedly optimistic about my
prospects in the near term and very optimistic about my prospects
in the long term.
THOUGHTS ON THE FUSION FOR 06 AND THE
CAR OF TOMORROW. Going back to the first question I was
asked about the balance of the cars, in 2004 Ford got a new
Taurus configuration that gave us a chance to catch up on what
was contemporary knowledge about the function of the nose and the
tail that we didnt understand in 97. The last Taurus
we had was in 97, so I did feel up through 2004, including
the championship that Matt Kenseth won in 2003, that we had a
disadvantaged car. That has gone away. Certainly for me I dont
feel that Ive got a disadvantaged car. I do have empathy
and sympathy for Ray and not being able to get the result that he
wanted from the change that I understand the design folks at
Daimler Chrysler put on him, but as far as our car going forward
to 2006, its a minor, minor, minor change that the Fusion
brings. It has very much the same characteristic in every metric
that was can see to the car that we have now. We dont think
there is an improvement in it and we think that our data will
relate to what weve been doing. As far as the car of the
future, there have been three tests that weve prepared cars
for and gone twice to Atlanta and once in Talladega, and its
just going to be an entirely different breed. Its as
different as racing a Truck to racing an IROC car to racing a
present day Nextel Cup car. Its going to be totally
different. There are going to winners and there are going to be
losers with regard to the drivers adaptability to it. Part
of the reason that some of the people that had been most
successful previously havent been successful in the last
two years is because of the aero-balance of the car that was
brought about by shortening that rear spoiler an inch. The change
to the new car from a performance point of view on the race track
is going to be times more dramatic than that. Whether or not it
winds up greater parity; whether of not it reduces cost; whether
or not it has the benefits that NASCAR predicts has yet to be
seen. I wont say that Im skeptical, but I certainly
wouldnt have proposed this car at this time with the
characteristics that theyve gone after. Im a follower
and not a leader in that regard.
WILL KURT BUSCH REPRESENT ROUSH RACING AT
THE NASCAR BANQUET IN NEW YORK? I havent got a clue.
Im not sure. I hadnt contemplated that. They said
that the manager of the race track came and told me the 97 flag
was going to be taken down from the flag stand on Sunday here and
Kurt will not be involved in that procedure. Jimmy Fennig and I
will go up and take the flag, but I dont know about the
banquet. Im not sure what convention requires or what
Nextel will require there. Im just not sure.
FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW HOW WOULD
SELLING YOUR TEAM AND STILL SUPPLYING THEM EQUIPMENT BE ANY
DIFFERENT THAN FROM HAVING ONE OF YOUR TEAMS IN SOMEONE ELSES
NAME? They havent written that down any place yet.
Thats the devil in the details that were all looking
for, at least certainly what Im looking for and Im
sure Rick (Hendrick) is interested in. On the one hand theyre
encouraging us to help people to help provide cars, to
provide technology, to provide engineering services. Im
encouraged to do all those things to new teams, and at the same
time for a new team that comes in, Ive got huge debt for
the real estate that Ive got in North Carolina and for much
of the equipment thats inside those. Im not leveraged
beyond reason, but Im leveraged like a normal business
would be that has the kind of cash flow that Ive got and
has the prospect for a return that Ive got. For a new team
to come in and need the cars and need the technology and need the
people and need all the support that goes with that, theres
got to be a price associated with that. And if they dont
have the basis to be able to guarantee that theyre going to
pay for that, well then that either says NASCAR expects the
existing teams that provide their support to be the bank for
those operations, or NASCAR has got to step up and say that theyll
underwrite it. Lacking that, its easy to come back and say,
Well, sell your team to somebody that doesnt have the
money, that cant borrow it from the bank and then take the
paper on it and let them go fail with it and lose your investment.
That doesnt make any sense. So there are a lot of things
out there that theyve thrown out. Go sell your team.
Go sell your services. Let your people work for somebody else as
consultants. Why would I do that? That would be contrary
taking the risk associated with those unknowns would be
inconsistent with the decision-making process that had gotten
Rick or myself or Ray (Evernham) or J.D. (Gibbs) or any of the
other folks that own these teams today into the position where
they could have viable businesses. Anyway, Im anxious to
hear how they want us to provide these services -- who theyll
let us sell the teams to. What the means would be. What the paper
is that goes through if we have to sell these things on land
contracts, or if we have to do something else that involves the
effect of the mortgage how that relates back. If I sell
you a race team and you give me a dollar down and a dollar a
year, does that mean that you own it or I own it? Where does the
ownership truly lie, regardless of where the paper is and what it
says? The practical way of implementing the things theyve
talked about certainly hasnt been defined to me and therein
lies the opportunity to get through this thing to their
satisfaction or it winds up being the barrier for it.
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